Legislature(2001 - 2002)

05/07/2002 01:50 PM Senate L&C

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                 HB 471-AIDEA LOANS AND DIVIDEND                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
CHAIRMAN STEVENS announced HB 471 to be up for consideration.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR GREEN, sponsor of HB 471, said his staff, Jessica                                                                       
Menendez, would explain the bill.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MS. JESSICA MENENDEZ, Staff to Representative  Green, said that HB
471 has  to do with the  Alaska Industrial Development  and Export                                                              
Authority's (AIDEA's)  calculation for their annual  dividend, the                                                              
revolving fund and the Rural Development Initiative Fund(RDIF).                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     AIDEA   is   a  self-supporting   state   agency.   They                                                                   
     contribute  a dividend to the  general fund  every year.                                                                   
     Under  current  state  law,  AIDEA pays  out  an  annual                                                                   
     dividend which is between 25%  - 50% of their net income                                                                   
     for  their base  fiscal year.  Since AIDEA's  inception,                                                                   
     they've authorized  $129 million to the  state's general                                                                   
     fund.  That   includes  the  2003  dividend,   which  is                                                                   
     $20,149.500. New  standards adopted by  the governmental                                                                   
     Accounting  Standards Board  (GASB) makes some  changes.                                                                   
     That  is  they will  no  longer  include the  term  "net                                                                   
     income" in  their audited financial statements.  Without                                                                   
     those  amounts listed,  it doesn't  give  AIDEA a  clear                                                                   
     direction on  how to determine what our  annual dividend                                                                   
     is going to be.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     Another important  change is that GASB will  now require                                                                   
     that  any  of  their  inter  governmental  transfers  or                                                                   
     capital  contributions or grants  be listed in  expense.                                                                   
     So,  those  accounting  modifications   will  alter  the                                                                   
     calculation of  how we get  our dividends. So,  in other                                                                   
     words,   since   our   dividend   from   AIDEA   is   an                                                                   
     intergovernmental  transfer, then  that will reduce  the                                                                   
     net  income for  that  fiscal year  and  simultaneously,                                                                   
     that will then reduce the amount  of the dividend that's                                                                   
     calculated by AIDEA. So, for  the first time the payment                                                                   
     from  AIDEA could  basically reduce  the amount that  we                                                                   
     would normally  be getting. Sections  2 and 3  amend the                                                                   
     definitions  using  statutory  guidelines  for  dividend                                                                   
     programs to accommodate the changes of GASB.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     HB 471 also  increases the maximum amount  from the bulk                                                                   
     fuel  revolving  loan fund  to  $200,000. As  you  know,                                                                   
     rural  communities  use this  program  in order  to  buy                                                                   
     their annual  supply of fuel. Petroleum  price increases                                                                   
     and the fact  that there is bulk storage  tank capacity,                                                                   
     $100,000 is too low of a number.  So, bumping it back to                                                                   
     $200,000  would provide communities  who buy their  bulk                                                                   
     fuel in one  month funding. In addition,  what I learned                                                                   
     last week is  that USDA approved a $5 million  grant for                                                                   
     AIDEA,  so  that money  will  be  used to  support  this                                                                   
     program.  Finally, section  4  adds language  describing                                                                   
     the   eligibility   requirements   for   AIDEA's   Rural                                                                   
     Development  Initiative Funds  (RDIF).  This program  is                                                                   
     designed   to  provide  financing   options  for   rural                                                                   
     communities.  AIDEA wants to  insure that the  loans are                                                                   
     going  to the  intended recipients  who are  truly in  a                                                                   
     rural  community. So,  qualifying  participants of  less                                                                   
     than 5,000 people who are not  connected by road or rail                                                                   
     to Anchorage  or Fairbanks and  less than 2,000  who are                                                                   
     connect to Anchorage or Fairbanks by road or rail.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     HB 471 is important legislation  and not just because it                                                                   
     contributes an annual dividend  to our general fund, but                                                                   
     AIDEA  does  help  promote  and  diversify  our  economy                                                                   
     providing businesses a means  or a beginning for them to                                                                   
     grow. So, we appreciate your support in the bill.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  TORGERSON  said  the definition  of  "community"  is  not                                                              
defined in  AS 29.71.800  and he wanted  the Department of  Law to                                                              
assure him that that worked.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. BRIAN BJORKQUIST,  Department of Law, took a  moment to review                                                              
that.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR TOGERSON  asked if the  5,000 population cover  Barrow and                                                              
Bethel.  He thought  they were bigger  then that.  He didn't  want                                                              
them to leave anyone out.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
CHAIRMAN STEVENS asked if under existing  revolving bulk fuel loan                                                              
funds, are communities over 5,000-population eligible now.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MS. LYNNE KENNY,  AIDEA, said they are referring  to two different                                                              
loans. The first  is the bulk fuel revolving loan  fund. The 5,000                                                              
population or less is existing law.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MR. BJORKQUIST  added that  according to  census information  from                                                              
the Department of  Labor Bethel is over 5,000 and  Barrow is below                                                              
5,000.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
CHAIRMAN STEVENS  asked if it was  his intent to make  these loans                                                              
available to Bethel and Barrow.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MR.  BJORKQUIST  said  under  existing  law Bethel  would  not  be                                                              
eligible  because it  has a  population  in excess  of 5,000,  but                                                              
Barrow would be eligible because  it has a population below 5,000.                                                              
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR TORGERSON  said he  was asking  a policy question.  Should                                                              
they up  the populations  so that  Barrow and  Bethel are  covered                                                              
under the loan program or are they  happy with leaving Bethel out.                                                              
                                                                                                                                
CHAIRMAN STEVENS  asked if  Bethel was the  only one that  was not                                                              
eligible off the road system.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MS. KENNY replied that the policy  question had not been explored.                                                              
A definition  of  a rural  community became  complicated and  this                                                              
language was  from the  Department of Law.  She also  thought that                                                              
Bethel  would be  able  to secure  financing  in more  traditional                                                              
ways, such as the loan participation program.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIRMAN TORGERSON  said it was her  call and he wanted  it on the                                                              
record  that  they  were  leaving  Bethel  out  and  that  it  was                                                              
intentional.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS.  KENNY said  she  would  have to  speak  to others  with  more                                                              
authority.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR TORGERSON asked what the  delinquency rate was on the bulk                                                              
fuel loans.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MS. KENNY  said she  didn't have  that information,  but would  be                                                              
happy to get it for him.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MR. BJORKQUIST replied to a previous  question about definition of                                                              
a community.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     Community under  the new legislation includes  a city as                                                                   
     defined  in  AS  29.71.800,  which  is  -  reading  that                                                                   
     statute  -  saying  we  need a  general  law,  first  or                                                                   
     second-class city  or a home rule city. Then  the second                                                                   
     part of the definition - or  an unincorporated community                                                                   
     as defined  in AS 29.60.140. That definition  states the                                                                   
     following:  In  this  section  unincorporated  community                                                                   
     means  a place in  the unorganized  borough that is  not                                                                   
     incorporated  as a  city  in which  25  or more  persons                                                                   
     reside  as  a  social unit.  That's  the  definition  of                                                                   
     community as it's used in the proposed legislation.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GREEN said  it was his  understanding that  Bethel                                                              
was about 4,850  people. He asked Senator Torgerson  where he gets                                                              
his figures from.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR TORGERSON answered:                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     The attorney  just gave  us the  numbers off the  census                                                                   
     data,  but I  thought Bethel  was a  little better  than                                                                   
     5,000.  We're including  the marine  highway system  and                                                                   
     some pretty  good cities here, because we're  saying the                                                                   
     marine  highway  doesn't  count   as  a  road.  We  have                                                                   
     Ketchikan in  this thing and whatever they  have - 8,000                                                                   
     or 10,000 people  and you're leaving out  a community in                                                                   
     rural Alaska.  I don't think  that's the intention,  but                                                                   
     I'm not prepared to amend the  bill. I want them to make                                                                   
     a policy  call and  they make the  policy call to  leave                                                                   
     Bethel out, they can handle Senator Hoffman.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MS. MENENDEZ said she knew the intention  of this was to determine                                                              
better  the   qualifying  participants,  because  they   had  some                                                              
problems  at  Settler's  Bay,  which  does  have  other  financial                                                              
options  available to  them.  "So this  program  was intended  for                                                              
rural  communities   who  don't   have  other  financing   options                                                              
available to them."                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
CHAIRMAN STEVENS that  they were essentially doubling  the size of                                                              
the ability to loan the funds and  asked if it has the capacity to                                                              
absorb that demand.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MS. KENNY  replied yes,  with the  $5 million  they are  receiving                                                              
from the FRDA.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
CHAIRMAN STEVENS asked how many loans did they issue annually.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MS. KENNY apologized  that the loan specialist  on this particular                                                              
fund was out of town today and she couldn't tell him that.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GREEN said they  he was  assured before  hand that                                                              
there were funds available.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CHAIRMAN STEVENS asked what the balance  of the loan fund was now.                                                              
He  asked  that  the requested  information  be  sent  to  Senator                                                              
Torgerson who would share it with the rest of the committee.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. BJORKQUIST interrupted  to say that the population  of Nome is                                                              
3,500.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  TORGERSON moved  to pass  HB  471 out  of committee  with                                                              
individual recommendations  with the accompanying $0  fiscal note.                                                              
There were no objections and it was so ordered.                                                                                 

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